Pastor Claims Half of All Murders Committed by Gays; Gets Standing Ovation

Posted by Kevin Farrell on Nov 16, 2011 in Crime | 47 comments

Someone ought to tell "good Christian" Tom Vineyard that not bearing false witness is one of the commandments.

The Oklahoma City Council’s decision to add sexual orientation to the list of protected groups under the employment nondiscrimination policy has received with good reason quite a bit of fanfare, since passing on Tuesday. The other OC joins much of the rest of the civilized world with their new policy by making it clear that homophobic bosses hoping to fire employees for simply being gay can instead suck it.

But one bit of this story that I have seen gone relatively unreported happened within the council chambers during the community testimony prior to the decision.

The comments made by council members and those who signed up to speak reflected the emotional and polarizing nature of the debate. Shadid likened allowing discrimination against gay people to Adolf Hitler targeting groups for hate in Germany. Pastor Tom Vineyard of Windsor Hills Baptist Church cited a New York judge in saying more than half of murders in large cities are committed by gay people.

Vineyard received the longest standing ovation of the day after his remarks.

Really, where do gay people find the time? When we’re not out recruiting children, running the hip-hop music industry or forcing our homosexual agenda on America, we still manage to commit more than half of all murders in big cities. If only we would use our clearly superhuman powers for good.

Shame on Tom Vineyard and those who left their common sense at the door to make room in the Oklahoma City Council chambers.

You can leave a message for the church about their pastor’s hateful lies on their contact form over here. No cussing. No condemning. Go on now.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=673387722 David Stapelkamp-Lane

Done.
Scott Amundsen

I never heard such rubbish. On the one hand they are always yammering about how Kinsey got it wrong and that we are not ten percent of the population, but more like two or three (don’t get me started), while on the other hand we apparently are responsible for more crime, more war, more poverty, and more Christ-Only-Knows-What-Else.

Someone should tell this babbling baboon that not only do the Ten Commandments say you shall not bear false witness, the Bible also says that “a lying tongue” is one of the things God HATES.

Sorry, bub, but you cannot have it both ways.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=777000127 Tim Mürphy

To be fair, Kinsey’s data are a bit questionable, but that’s missing the point. Let’s present a ridiculous scenario and say that only one in one million people is gay – would that justify discrimination? By THAT logic, given that Christians are a decided minority, discriminating against them would be legal too (oh, right – some Christians think that being told they can’t bully and oppress gays and atheists is synonymous with discrimination…). I’m often surprised we DON’T commit more murders – god knows we’ve been provoked by smiling jackals more than the human mind should be able to endure – but we’re not THAT good at mass murder.

http://www.facebook.com/people/John-A-Leopard/774508535 John A. Leopard

Kinsey never reported that 10% of the population is Gay. In fact, his research would point to a much higher figure of people who are Gay or Bisexual in the over-all population. Other studies (and there have been many) show that the number of adults who are exclusively homosexual in the over-all population is somewhere between 4 and 15%, so 10% would be a reasonable approximation. The problem is that as long as there is homophobia there will be people who refuse to admit their sexual orientation no matter how “blind” the study might be. And while Gays clearly make up a minority in most of the world, the bad things we do are going to get a lot more publicity than the bad things that people who belong to the majority do – the same thing is true of all minorities. It’s the “man bites dog” syndrome.

Anonymous

Amen.

Anonymous

Amazing photoshop work on his website.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001673588801 Cassandra Huber

Oh I submitted a not-so-nice but appropriate comment on their contact form….stayed anonymous of course. Baptists are psychos.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Diane-OFarrell/100002874231926 Diane O’Farrell

WE don’t commit the murders,we contract it out to deamons!!!!wouldn’t want to get MY hand’s dirty!LOL
http://www.facebook.com/people/Erica-Cook/100000628613592 Erica Cook

I was hoping I misread this. Sadly I didn’t, I’d love to know where the hell he came up with this statistic and how he’s going to back up the statement.
http://twitter.com/Whitefurre Daniel Barker

Oh crap, how did he find out!? Need to hide the bodies better.
Anonymous

I’m guessing the data came from the prison satisfaction surveys. If a prisoner indicates that they were sodomized by another male inmate, then that penetration obviously infected them with the gay virus, and therefore they are now gay, and thus 50% of all murders are committed by gays… it’s so clear!
http://www.facebook.com/beezhybeezhypantsss Beezhy Warpath King

So that’s why I’ve been so FREAKING busy lately…it is getting close to Christmas.
Scott J. Hamilton

What the story does not include is that this same “minister” also spouted that most gay men are pedophiles because we can’t procreate, that most of us have intestinal parasites usually found only in Third World countries, and the if they City Council voted affirmatively on the resolution that it would be “bringing down the wrath of God on your city.” There’s more, but I’m getting nauseous just thinking about this idiot.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-David-Barber/100000327055940 Michael David Barber

When is the LGBTQ community going to stand up to this kind of slander and sue these lying bastards? I am furious that such an incitement against us all is allowed to stand without the entire country coming down on him.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-David-Barber/100000327055940 Michael David Barber

Here is a real statistic from the Federal Bureau of Prisons: 95% of all murders are committed by KKKristians.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Wade-MacMorrighan/738152218 Wade MacMorrighan

What NY Judge did he cite? And, what was the context of that citation? Was he misrepresenting the Judge, perhaps? (They seem to LOVE to misrepresent citations; I caught NOM misrepresenting an early 20th. Cent. court Case in which they purposefully forgot to mention that the husband was SUING his wife for fraud by not mentioning she was now sterile due to surgery and could not provide an heir for him….he wanted a divorce! Instead, NOM left ALL of the details out when they quoted the Judge as declaring that bearing children is a fundamental purpose of marriage!)
http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Norman/1170917683 Steven Norman

Must be the Jeffery Dahmer/John Wayne Gacy defense..
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Terry Purdue

I looked at his letter to the City Council and most of that is worthless drivel that is often used to put our civil rights to a vote. That is reprehensible. Even if we are 2% of the population, we should not be discriminated against unfairly…that is the bottom line
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YBHU7W5IKTKQOBICYWWVKHXYEI Sara

Quite frankly I’m tired of what these Christian idiot ministers have to say. Those that have among them adulterers, pedophiles, and those that defraud churches of their funds. There are the fakes that pretend to heal and hear the voice of “God” and assume that they own that word. They go on and on about Sodom and Gomorrah as being examples when the truth be told was they were cities built by Cain and it was out of jealousy they were destroyed because they were prosperous. Yes their book uses the word abomination but they also apply that to a long list of other things that impeded what the culture thought was the norm. People shouldn’t be talking about their sexual orientation so publicly in the first place and those religious folks have no right to JUDGE because that is an abomination right along with trying to deliberately use false accusations concerning a numerous group of people they don’t even know. It’s a sad thing that they have so little tolerance and charity and seem to get excited by hurting people but then they created the Inquisition didn’t they. Time has passed and nothing has changed. The fact they clapped and cheered only shows the petty mentality of a lot of people. Shame on them.
Anonymous

Damn we’re busy. He’s a fake human being. Oh and the comment forum is closed LOL Must have had one too many of we gays telling him his kind of xtian is a hypocrite.
Anonymous

Hmmm…looks like either we crashed their site, or they couldn’t take the heat, ’cause their form is “no longer accepting comments”. How in the world can someone be as dumbcrazystupid as this guy?? Those people are desperate. And that’s good for the rest of us–and for the TRUTH.
http://www.facebook.com/djseansparks Sean Sparks

“Sorry, but this form is no longer accepting submissions.”
Anonymous

He failed to mention that 99.9% of all murderers are Christians.
http://www.facebook.com/JRCehonski James-Robert Equality Cehonski

They shut down the contact form on their website!!!!
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_23IFUP4XA7MXQLAPZAGEO2QDQM Kynthia

Nope – they shut the submissions form down – imagine that !
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1198111336 Mj Myer

Went to try to leave him a personal comment. The comment and contact form has been removed. It says that the form is no longer accepting submissions.

Whats the matter Pastor? You Scared?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Ike-Rose/100001526397056 Ike Rose

The Church’s website’s contact form is now disabled, and they’ve turned off their answering machine…

Sounds like they got a LOT of com[plaints abut a minister of the Gospel telling bald faced lies.
http://www.facebook.com/michaelrcooke Michael Cooke

3/4 of all homicides are perpetrated by Christians!

Well, no I don’t have facts to back up that position, but I think it’s a safe bet that convicted murderers in prison are far more likely to identify as Christian than as gay.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=695454895 Micki McNie

The church comment form has been shut down – way to go people! I did download and read the pastor’s lovely letter. Does anyone have the time to compile an answering letter with statistics on all the crimes, molestations and public sexual acts that hetero’s have committed over the years? Perhaps we could ask that they be removed from city office?
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=695454895 Micki McNie

and besides, if half of the murders are made by gays, who makes the other half? Doesn’t that make us equal?

Laurie Edwards

No. If only ten percent of the population is committing fifty percent of the murders, that ten percent is obviously more evil and maladjusted than the other ninety percent.

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Laurie Edwards

I went to the site to leave a polite nastygram, and I got this: Sorry, but this form is no longer accepting submissions.
We shut ‘em down. Makes me happy.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=771219087 Buddy Englett

Funny, the contact page says they’re no longer accepting submissions- lol.
Anonymous

As you sit in a room full of your peers. Look at the person on your left and look to your right. Thats right they are dead because you and every other gay person killed them. ~~~~ Baptist preacher dreaming he is talking to a room of gay and lesbians
Reality
As you sit in a room full of your peers. Look to your the person on your left, now to your right. Thats right they use to be Baptist, but we are too narrow minded to love and except them. ~~~~Baptist preacher in reality.

Its funny the people who talk the most crap about other groups seem the least christ like of them all.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=30511296 Evelyn Lee

Guys (gays?), I know that homophobia sucks, but murdering homophobes is NOT the answer!
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=52802895 Tyson Berry

The church is losing it’s grip on people and reality. They are desperate and it shows. As the oldies die off and the younger gen. grows the more exceptance we are seeing as a whole.
http://twitter.com/Song1964 Renee Dawson

I believe I have heard his dad Jim Vineyard preach…. hmmmm….doesn’t fall far from the tree
Anonymous

I just went to leave a message on their website. It states that they are “no longer accepting submissions.” Hmmmmm, perhaps they didn’t like what they were receiving?
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SEZOTM6J3G3K4MCZ6DMTRS7R5Q kenbo

Just goes to show how ignorant Southern Baptist’s are…..and this crap coming from a “man of God”…what a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.facebook.com/bruce.kogan Bruce Kogan

Here’s a truly frightening thought if this fundaloon clown actually believes what he testified to
at an Oklahoma City gay rights hearing.
http://www.facebook.com/ShawnAcCoats Shawn A

The only crimes Ive committed it in my gay life is wearing “sandals and socks” and “popping my caller”. I know I should go to jail…
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Lonny Parr

Fired off a civil response.. now to see what kind of junkmail i start getting..

I’ve sait it before; the trouble with Baptists is that they don’t hold them under long enough.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1064004934 Russell Polecina

Already sent it!!!!
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1664732393 Jim Self

What I hate is the not knowing….. when will I be the one to kill? I mean I have had some good days and some bad days. I was having a good morning until I find out that I may be a killer. Ok calmly- I am going to finish my coffee and then decide who is the first to be put out of their misery. Um and what about if I am late for work- How does one call that in?
http://www.facebook.com/becca.riehl Becca R

Pastor Vinyard….u have been to college correct? Then you know the ramifications of your affirmations….where r ur statistics? Please cite your sources!
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http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G2WSJS7KMYZQK2ANFWQTKPKYFA Jeremy Cantrell

actually, if you wanna play that card, most serial killers are straight white males.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1594110116 Nhia Pheng Thao

the only crime “we gays” committed was not giving him the service he thought he paid for. sorry, but “we gays” love human MEN, and “we lesbians” love human WOMEN, not some lonely pig who crawled out of a cavern. my apologies for insulting the pigs.

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